Chadwicks Construction Podcasts
Trade talk, tips and banter for trade and construction workers across Ireland.
Aidan Power and Fred Cooke chat with industry insiders, get great tips on how to improve business and take a peek behind the scenes at Chadwicks. Listen in the van or on job with new episodes every Monday.
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Health & Well Being are increasingly important in the business and we hear from the best on how to protect yourself.
Mental health expert Niall Breslin shares tips on how to deal with change and conflict on work sites while Niall McGann tells us about Chadwicks National Tradespersons Check. Forget the Two Johnnies and join us with the Two Nialls for this week’s Under Construction podcast with Chadwicks.
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Niall Breslin, former lead singer with The Blizzards, is one of Ireland’s most inspiring mental health advocates and presents of the hugely successful podcast ‘Where Is My Mind’. He works alongside a diverse range of clients including Apple, Google, international NGOs, and The European Parliament.
Niall McGann is a master builders merchant who grew up in the family business before it became part of Chadwicks. He is currently Manager of Chadwicks branch in Limerick.
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This week on under construction with chadwicks.
Aidan Power 00:05
Did you know that former professional rugby player podcaster author and rock God Brizzy used to work on the building sites.
I've worked in the sites for years they used to work in demolition. I know what the vibe is of the site, but I always know there's one or two lads there that you can just sit beside and say something. Peer to Peer social support is one of the most effective forms of therapy.
seatbelts on, check your mirrors, volume. The under construction podcast with Asian power and Franco starts now.
Aidan Power 00:37
And welcome to the podcast coming up best selling musician podcaster and professional athlete now Breslin gives us some tips for handling stress on site. We hear about free health checks for tradespeople and we share your jokes to win the tool of dreams. Now this week, we're going to try and make life work a little better for you. So the bit of slagging is getting you down or you feel everyone else has it better than you stick around? Because we've got some great tips on how to deal with fussy customers, bosses who asked too much, or employees who do too little. And speaking of which, here's Mr. Fred Koch. Hey, Fred, how are you? I do loads work. We're talking about mental health this week and the stresses and strains of everyday life and indeed work life now, as a comedian, which does appear to be one of the greatest jobs in the world, it seems to me as one of the most terrifying gigs one can do when you stand on stage. And you've got to make people laugh. how stressful is that?
Fred Cooke 01:28
It's a lovely, it's great fun. And I guess the, the stress for me is nerves, and the nerves shows that I care what it's good fun, like generally, you know, like, my jokes work on stage. So it's fine. You know, it's, it's, it's you even when people heckling me, or the reason why they're heckling, you is obviously because we're looking for attention. So ignore the Heckle. You know, you're already winning and have to keep heckling, you will then if you ask them a question that demand for mental thought, do you know if you you know, kids, kids tv, when you ask the child a question, that's not the child's natural inclination is to say, Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, dig deeper, you have to ask them a question that they have to put some mental thought into it. And if you keep doing that, you know, you'll get them. You'll get from them hang themselves.
Aidan Power 02:13
Alright, so Fred, I got to try and hackle you now just a crack. Okay. And you give us an example of how you deal with an idiot like me, okay. Her Yo, yo, fella from the spireites is not really glad I loved you
Fred Cooke 02:24
in this paradise. Yeah. Well, okay, Oliver, I would have ignored that. I would have kept talking. Crap. Okay. Very good. truthful as well. You weren't this pirate. It's very relevant. It's a very relevant topical heckler as well from like from 11 years ago. No, look, No, you're right. I don't know where I'm getting the aspirins Ronnie coming out now. I don't know someplace in Roscommon just hit the telly 11 years later. So okay, I want to ignore dosh, you know what? I might have done a facial expression technology, that guy with the cry, but I would have ignored it and capital. You know, okay, maybe that state security would have been honest. You know, really? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Philly county had a beautiful line that he says when someone was heckling him He goes, he keeps talking because I'm just I'm just talking to you. I'm just gonna keep talking to you so security can hear you can see what you're feeling. So one more you have to go again. You got to go the second half. Because you're not much of a nuisance. Yes. In Roscommon I'm sorry.
Aidan Power 03:44
I'm clearly too nice. I'm not I'm not. Okay. Give me an example of a Heckle. You've got before that challenged you and you had to you had to go to war with this lad. Yeah. Hey, yo, yo, yo, you're as funny as a kick in the hoop.
Fred Cooke 03:58
Okay, yeah. Okay, guys. Sorry for bringing my dad with me tonight. A bit awkward when I can't afford the petrol. So already okay. I brought laughter I've acknowledged the Heckle. Okay, so I'm back into my show. And then
Aidan Power 04:12
I'm not happy as the heckler because I'm not sure if this is not playing out the way I
Fred Cooke 04:16
want. Exactly. So normally they'll they'll shut up at that stage because the relicensure not getting the attention but i've
Aidan Power 04:22
i've had too much to drink and I want to get a laugh so I'm going to interrupt you again. And pretend to take a phone call and go with Mr. Fred cook. No not really.
Fred Cooke 04:37
Okay so sorry sir. CMT nice as well. I'd really loved to get to this stage of a hacker. We're just going on the on the on the side of it that
Aidan Power 04:54
this was a worthy exercise. It hasn't worked but we tried to demonstrate demonstrate How you how you do handle the hecklers. Right at more on stress and dealing with that in the workplace. We're gonna be talking to breezy in a little while. And we also have a photo of the week where you watsapp post a photo of some work you're proud of and share it with everyone listening now right now, if you look at your phone, or whatever you're using to listen to us on you should see a photo of a cracking looking woodshed. Now this work is of chadwicks customer Colin Lynch, who sent us a WhatsApp message to tell us all about it.
Hey, guys, I've just finished building the woodshed you know all the material arrived on time as you said it would got the whole project on which adds up full award. Okay, so what I've done is I've built a open wooden structure. Of course, the biggest pain for for having wood log log piles is if you put them under poly your thing when it's raining, you have to lift it back and you get soaked. So what have we done this time, open front foot woodshed, it's got a really steep angle on the roof. So we've got plywood roof, we've got roofing membrane brain on top of it. And then we've got some really thick felt on top of that, then yeah, I went with some good treated wood for the the uprights and then for the bass, I went for marine ply and the whole thing now one of my goals was just to get to pieces that I didn't have to cut together. So I got the lens right just didn't do any coating on the actual plywood just assembled all that and then figuring the drop for the roof, or where would a standard lend to wood. That was my that's my eight foot and then I had a drop back down. I went back to a six foot at the back there is my drop. It's a nice big drop and just enough space for a ton of wood. Thanks guys. Thanks chadwicks cheers column
Aidan Power 06:44
thank you very much and well explained as we look at the photo we're getting there the exact thought process and methods that went into it once you think of a Fred
Fred Cooke 06:53
i think you know I guess we have so much sunny weather now but you can never prepare too much for the Irish weather. You know like it's a you know that there's so much there's so much wool there as well just get the fire going at any minute because that's the country that we are like for somebody now with sunburn, but we'll have snowfall falling onto those. So well done well done for being organized.
Aidan Power 07:13
Yeah, he's well set for whenever he leads needs to know like the next fire and it could be in the next 10 minutes. You never know exactly. Well thanks column. Now if you can't see the photo of his shed on your particular podcast player, we will put a link to it in the show notes below. And remember, if you'd like to share a photo of some work you're proud of, and share it with everyone listening as our photo of the week you can just send us a WhatsApp of the photo and a voicemail telling us about it. Oh 877754 triple five and that number is also in the show description.
This is the under construction podcast from Chadwick's. Let's get it done.
Aidan Power 07:46
Now I guess this week is former professional rugby player podcaster author and record if we can call you that Nile Brock Breslin better known to the world as breezy. How are you breezy?
I am Fantastic. Thank you How y'all getting on?
Aidan Power 07:58
Yeah, very good. Thanks so much for joining us could have an interesting conversation around mental health. This week on the podcast, breezy as somebody who's been so successful in life. People might be surprised to know that behind the scenes things weren't going well for you for for a long long time. Will you take us back to your rugby career and when you started to struggle
Yeah, I struggled from day one going into professional rugby. I remember going to Australia for the under 20 ones World Cup. And I think it was one of the only players who played every game at that World Cup but it was like four or five games until weeks which is just it's a disaster zone for rugby blur. And I was put together with super glue and again home like i mean i injuries everywhere. And I remember the flight back from Sydney my hair fell I was like look clumps of it were faultless falling out. And I was like, this is just my body was was just absolutely honest, on the ground. And when I landed, I got offered a professional contract. That was the kind of day and then I obviously I was delighted to get a contract, but I really wasn't very well. And I probably should have. It's easier for me to say that now. But I should have I should have been looking for help at that point. And, but like professional contract 21 Let's go for it. And and they took us and I first two it two and a half years at landstar. I just just survived I was leaving that much of other sleeping. And it's funny enough, I interviewed my old lenstra coach Matt Williams, on the podcasts because the let the last time I saw him was about two years ago at Virgin Media. And he said to me, I missed you. But I never missed anyone else after you. And his perception of me when I was a professional athlete that I had a drink problem. And I was lazy. And he couldn't have been further from the truth because he couldn't look past my behavior. He could only see what was surface level which was that I was not sleeping so obviously I wasn't functioning at that level I should be functioning and I was well capable of but then he It was very emotional conversation to have with your coach to tell All the stuff you wish you told him when you were playing. And here's the thing, one of the players I played with and he coached as well after that data suicide. And we always felt this was the kind of conversation that should have been happening 2003 and 2004, which made me promise myself, if I ever found myself in a position to have this conversation again, publicly, that I would do it, because I just I've just watched not just athletes, but generally, my community, my friends, my family struggle for years and pretend there's nothing wrong, I just had an offer that I have an offer live in the country that does that. And Ireland has had a dark past. And we can't change that. But we can absolutely look at the future in a different way.
Aidan Power 10:41
So where we're at now, and they'll be people listening to this podcast, they might be driving to a job, they might be going, I can relate to what this guy is saying, but I don't feel I can talk about it. And that may be because I work in a particular industry, and I work on a site with a load of other lads and the environment isn't conducive to that. What would you say to people like that?
Well, I've worked in the sites for years, that was my summer job I used to work in demolition with and I know what the vibe is of the site. But I always know there's one or two lads there that you can just sit beside and say something to, and really think that's important. Peer Support peer to peer social support. We know through research, peer to peer social support is one of the most effective forms of therapy, the ability to turn to colleagues, friends and family and not to be judged. Now, if you if you're struggling, or a friend says they're struggling here, your only job isn't is to not judge them, it's not to fix them, you're not there to fix anybody, you know, you're not a professional. So your job is to create a space of non judgement. And if you look at building sites, for example, it's an immensely difficult job it is. So energy sapping sometimes you don't get enough sleep, sometimes you don't eat for the whole day, and all these other things thrown on top of it. And your and your defenses get low and your energy levels get low. And it could be some other shit going on at home that nobody knows about relationship problems, problems that your kids, we never know. And if we don't change this, we're just going to be having this conversation 15 years because the health system isn't fixing this, the health system is not fixing this problem, it doesn't have the capacity to fix it unless it totally resolves itself, and changes the model of how we treat people with mental health issues and how we support them. But we have huge power as individuals to change this. And it starts was within in whatever building site you're in, whatever group you're in, find one person and find a way to build that peer support network within that that setting because I can guarantee you every site across the country, there's a few people that are struggling to get out of bed to face their day. And you could make that so much more supportive.
Aidan Power 12:46
Okay, so a couple of other topics that may affect people in in the trade and it's brilliant, you have the experience of doing it. I mean, did you ever find that rejection was an issue as a trades person? If someone was to criticize your work to question Yes Are they be comparing yourself to other people?
Well, I wasn't demolition, so my job was to for people to hate my work. I used to go in and beat them you know, I my job. Like one of the toughest jobs I've ever had was maynooth and the irony of this was when a guy a builder of contract with a Michael Kelly and our job for the summer was to cango hammer out all the solid concrete altars whatever they were doing two minutes they minute decided religion was going nowhere. So they probably got rid of all the the altars. And I was like no better lad who got his ass kicked in by Christian Brothers perfect and eight years, let me in there where they can go hammer, and I literally log the shit out of that place. And people will come out and you could just see my eyes. And I would then have to go train and I was playing for I was playing county at the time and I'd have to go home training. But my let my arms would still be like this and the pitch from bit shaken from from holding this yoke. But yeah, ultimately, if anyone came in and said you did absolutely demolished your shader, then I feel rejected because my job was to break things, not make them and which was a brilliant job. And in my own new house that I'm living in now, I still held on to that trait. I am brilliant at breaking things here. I have not a clue how to fix them. But in saying that rejection is a huge part of the creative industry. Fred, you understand? Like when you're when you do what we do, you have to get used to that horrible fear of rejection. I've put out music that's been absolutely ripped apart. I've you know, and that's the nature of being creative. I put out pieces of any creative art that people have both supported and people have lost that part of your job. And, and and it's not easy.
Fred Cooke 14:40
Did you find it hard a Prezi i guess i find it personally hard sometimes. And I tried to stop doing and just look after my own work. But comparing myself to other comedians. Their success
comparison is the thief of comparison is the thief of joy. Fred as they say. Yeah, and that's what we do. And that is a huge part of A lot of our struggles is our constant need to compare ourselves to others. And that has always been the way in the world. But we've never been kind of exposed to so much access to information in any given day now. So we're seeing so much to compare ourselves to every single day. And that is overwhelming. Like in the in the music industry, I used to be like that fancy Friday, but then I actually got a lot more, I kind of got this space that the only thing I controlled here is the value of my work and what I do, I can control anything else. And in your game, and in my game, there's a huge element of luck as well. You can be like ghosty, you can be in on any given week and laughed at the next week. But yeah, I do find that is part of it. But the thing about this, lads is everyone talks about this stuff as if it's Oh my god, it's normal. These are normal human responses. Yeah, this is how we're built. This is how we're designed. And I always say, you know, my, my tagline is, we're all fucked up. But some of us are better. And I just want to teach people to be better at
Aidan Power 16:01
it like that. That's a good tagline. We're gonna get that on the T shirt, and breezy. What about conflict? And I'm curious to know, from your experience of both being in a dressing room, and on a size, if there's any comparisons are similarities between the environments that exist, they'll always be alpha characters, dominant figures, bullying, things like that hierarchy, pecking orders, is there a comparative comparison to be made there?
Yeah, conflict is also an immensely normal party, the human condition, the issue of conflict is when we avoid it. So the three ways we deal with conflict, if generally, is passive aggression. That's one way confrontation or the person who just gets up in your face and screams as you're thinking that's going to change anything. And then there's the avoidant communicator, the person who goes, I just don't want to, I don't want any drama, you know, that person. None of them work. In the history of humankind, that way to communicate around conflict does not work. We call it mindful communication. And there's a man called Marshall Rosenberg, and I've studied his work. It's called nonviolent communication. And basically, the starting point for conflict, is to try and see, try and see the opinion of the other person, change the lens and how you're looking at it, even if you don't agree with them. And what that does is, we always think everybody's intention is because of social media is to hurt. Those are two offenders. It's not, you know, generally, if people is acting like a dick, there's probably a good reason. They're acting like a dick. And if you've got the emotional intelligence to look beyond that, that makes you a far bigger person. So that's what I always do. I, if somebody says something aggressive or conflicting towards me, towards me, first thing I tried to do is like wireless anatomy, is there a reason I sort of happened to them? And then you might get to the point where to just be indexed, and you call them on it. But yeah, passive aggression is the one you got to watch. Because what that does is so if a new say to me something passive aggressive, and I react, then you can go, Oh, well, you're just being sensitive. And oh, no, you're Biloxi don't get a boat where it's now. And this creates tension, bad energy, bad for productivity, bad for mental health. It's not rocket science. So that's what I would say change the lens on how you process. And that's the problem with social media. We do the complete opposite of that you look at this weekend with the the rubbish in the street, in the parties, every every person in that debate had valid, valid arguments. You know, some of them are not like, for example, it was valid to say that these aren't, these young people are going to the state, they protected older people by doing what they were told, they're going to go and party, that's what I would have done every day, all day that is in her DNA to do it. They should have been provided with better resources, they shouldn't have pierced and shat all over the place. They shouldn't have left rubbish everywhere. But that is that is this we've created a binary thing. We're just three groups of people screaming at each other and no one's left. No one wants to listen anymore. And yesterday, for example, where I live where I where I'm staying at the moment, every night, loader, teenagers, you know, go out there and party. But they've left two massive industrial bins. There wasn't one piece of rubbish on the ground this morning. So I'm okay with that. So yeah, so that's what I'm trying to say is stop this binary, you know, always versus then. It's great for politics, and it's great for marketing, but it's shipped for people.
Aidan Power 19:20
Yeah. Now as well as to and all this fabulous work and helping people you're also doing a bit of building and we're going to find out more about that on our pod quiz, which is coming up in just a few minutes is
under construction week chadwicks. New episodes every Monday on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Aidan Power 19:45
Now we have a little competition going on where we want to fix you up with something in Chadwick's that maybe is luxury or on your wish list something you want. What you don't want to drop a couple of 100 quid on it. We call that thing, the tool of dreams. And each week Fred likes to do a parody on the two Who have dreams so Fred for this week, I'm thinking your challenge is going to be brothers. So you can either do it in the style of john and Edward, aka Edward. Or Nolan. leam oasas. Okay, you know the answer to that one. Here's my general impression. Let's give it a go. Let's give away a license ago. All right, do it right. All ma people in construction. You want to to the jury to the dream. Yeah, we'll deal with there, Joe. Well, was that limos in? Wellesley? Yeah, my name is Danny Gold, isn't it? Yeah, mine was scarce. Okay. We will move on rice to get it all We are asking you to do and by get I mean, the tool of dreams is WhatsApp was your joke, or funny story 20877754 triple five. The 10 we use across the podcast series are in the draw to win your very own tool of dreams next month. So here is this week's joke. It is from Joe in Klein, who picks up on our podcast last week about apprentices.
So he was constantly this guy was late and in the format of the pain is agile. And he says, look, that guy is in late again. Tell him Tell him I'll have a p 44 period tomorrow with his name on it, you know? So he went back up to the site. And of course, the apprentice comes in late. I was very careless. And Daniella again from Olga says the farmer told me you're late tomorrow is gonna have a p 45. Which our name and then whatever button and loyality turn around he says why p 44. z tilde is the only one that can get a gun who can get a gun as well. Late the next day and you got the bullet.
Aidan Power 21:55
Hey, double whammy Nice. Nice. All right, Fred gi. Joe, Joe, could you think
Fred Cooke 22:03
oh yeah, absolutely hilarious. I can kind of relate to it because I was always turning up late for work myself. The P 45. Joe, that is something so obvious, but I didn't see it coming. You know what I mean? It's brilliant. Brilliant.
Aidan Power 22:15
Nice. Joe, you are getting that rave reviews from Fred cook. So if you have a story or a joke that beats that, send us a WhatsApp message. We're Joe 20877754 triple five. And of course you'll find that number in the show description on your phone right now.
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Aidan Power 22:38
Now let's go to Limerick where the man running the Chadwick operation is now McGann now welcome to the podcast. How are you? Very Good morning, James. How are you? All very well, thanks. Nice. We've been doing this a while now in the builders, merchants. It's a family business going going how far back for you.
Niall McGann 22:55
Going back? Where's the family business was 87 movie sold to the Chadwick group in 2007. So I was based in Venice for a couple years and I'm running Limerick
Aidan Power 23:06
rice. Okay, so from a very young age, this is all you've known? Pretty much Yes. ratio. Now, what have you seen change in the in the last 20 years plus,
Niall McGann 23:17
or so has been a lot of change in terms of building styles, building types, the materials used, regulation has changed, obviously over the years. standards have improved. And work practices have improved as well as training, health and safety. So I suppose it's been changed right across the board really not being massive in any particular no big jump, but just consistent change over that time. Yep.
Fred Cooke 23:46
So workers attitudes are changing to health and well being?
Niall McGann 23:51
Oh, I'd say definitely. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Certainly, from our side, there's been a huge progression. And you can see the tradespeople themselves as time passes by is was things started at a very basic level. And we'd hivers and stuff like that, but it has progressed quite rapidly and there is a good take up. Initially, these changes can be seen as a nuisance or time consuming or distracting from the real job. But I think everyone is taken on board that they're for everyone's benefit, and everyone says,
Aidan Power 24:24
Yeah, now chadwicks did some research on health and safety recently. What what what did it say? No.
Niall McGann 24:31
Yeah, there was about 340 odd people surveys at just basically under general health and well being the results that were varying. Almost half of those surveys didn't get an annual health check. almost a quarter had walked through an illness, and 39% of tradesmen don't exercise regularly at all. So it was quite varying it was spread quite across the age groups. So we, a lot of people had injuries and aches and pains as a result of their job. Back Pain being the most prevalent on doors, people reporting shoulder pain, neck pain, stuff like that.
Aidan Power 25:14
Now as a result, chadwicks introduced the National tradespersons check, how did that work not
Niall McGann 25:20
yet, we launched an initiative, allowing people to get their health checked in the in branch effectively saw was already time effective for the tradespeople. And we promoted that through all our social media channels and word of mouth and in the branch. So the guys booked a slot online, a 15 minute slot, they presented themselves into the branch, so a member of staff would have brought into the private office and introduced them to the nurse. It was a very, very private and individual and confidential service. So the nurse then checked height, weight, BMI, blood pressure, the finger prick test, gauging cholesterol and glucose levels. So it was a good good check.
Aidan Power 26:02
Yeah, like I kind of pre NCT. It's a really novel thing to offer, from a builder supplier to give a free health check as well. What was the reaction from customers like?
Niall McGann 26:12
Get the takeoff was huge, very positive. Initially, we had it open to employees to avail of it if there were free slots, but the takeoff was so positive that didn't actually work out. So yeah, it was very well received by the trade. And is there plans to do it again? Yeah, we are planning to launch it again in September, providing COVID restrictions allow us. So yeah, we'll be promoting the same initiative later in the year. One sec. COVID allows us to fix it it.
Aidan Power 26:39
That's great to hear now. Now you mentioned briefly about clothing earlier on about yellow vests and things like that. What else is important to keep your physically safe when you're doing the job.
Niall McGann 26:50
There's no one rule fits all really, depending on your trade or what your particular job is. or appropriate footwear, gloves, proper attire for the job, harnesses work pants, helmets, so all that type of stuff, depending on what you're doing or a particular job.
Aidan Power 27:09
Yeah. And when you look at gear is there one thing to keep in mind that can really help you on the job
Niall McGann 27:15
does not wanting to really sticks out, I suppose the most important thing is that you're wearing the appropriate gear that you have your hands free, that you have the proper tool bench or the proper proper proper pockets, excuse me, and to hold all your your tools or whatever is needed to do the job. So you can you have your hands free. So you can operate the machine you're using properly. Or if you're at height that you have your hands free to claim the scaffold or the ladder or whatever it is you're using. It just it's it's hard to have a one pin fits all because the work is so varied.
Fred Cooke 27:50
So looking at, I guess the future of construction I, in your personal opinion, what's going to happen in construction over the next 12 months.
Niall McGann 27:59
And I suppose COVID had kind of given us a blip there over the last 18 months. So that underlying demand for housing is still very strong. And we're kind of in a catch up scenario at the moment, which is putting pressure on supply. What the demand is certainly very strong. So in the in the short term future. It looks like the construction industry is going to be very strong. Okay, so it's it's flat to the mat for the foreseeable. Absolutely, yeah, we're enjoying where he brings it. It brings it on day to day problems, but we're enjoying the flat of the mesh at the moment. Yes. Are you saying your work in trade is very strong?
Aidan Power 28:36
Are you saying you're working too hard down there in Limerick?
Niall McGann 28:38
No, I wouldn't say that. No, I wouldn't say that was the whole team are working very hard.
Aidan Power 28:43
Keep it at all ago. Well, Nigel, thanks so much for joining on the podcast. It's been a pleasure to chat here. Thank you very much
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Aidan Power 28:57
Now. bracy is back with us and as well as being a TV star prime podcaster and record breezy you're adding builder to the CV? Is that what you'd call it are you coordinator
no my demolition days are still well and truly within my my my DNA and system. I have been amazing at knocking stuff down here. I've done I've Florida with my mates. Dave Moore actually helped me Help me florists and he refused to come out the hardest job I've ever done and I mean ever and that includes the altars in sanding. It is horrendous and as you can see there's these big windows have just wooden frames and are all around the house. And I didn't like the color of the wood and I went outside and I took out a little piece of sanding just a little Sander like hand sander and my mate Liam came in he goes what what what you're doing with that I'm sanding that he says you will be standing back to 2055 if you if you're using it, you need it. So he said you need a belt sander. So I went into chadwicks and asked for a belt sander which is just where I am at And I got the bell sander. And I brought it in. And it was the toughest job I've ever done. No doubt about it. My mom came I came home. It's teak and I came home and mom goes, were you away? I said, Steve a credit and it was the T bat into my skin. That came off. I was I swear to God, it looked like I'm in Atlanta it. Still bits of it there. Oh, yeah. Anyone who does that job. You're a rock and roll star.
Aidan Power 30:28
Yeah, the prep is always the highest bit. Well, breezy. You're going to do the pop quiz this week. Now you're playing on behalf of the chadwicks customer. His name is Andy O'Neill. He's from me, Fred, what can you tell us about him?
Fred Cooke 30:38
And you need as a bricklayer loves us believe and cannot wait to go on holidays to Spain if he can. There's almost like the song and that bit there. But I won't use that one. I've written a song for him exclusively as a voice message on his phone and the only thing stopping him from getting this voice message is Brizzy.
Can we say Andy if you can't get to spend on your holidays just come over to my house. I have a bit more teak to do here and we get your lovely color.
Aidan Power 31:03
Yeah, he's the perfect man for the job. So Andy, here's your prize. You get Fred's voicemail and you get to go and work embraces gaff as well. Yeah, only if Prezi can get at least three questions right in the next 60 seconds. Are you ready to go? Prezi? Yes, let's do it. Question one on a kitchen extension. Do you install water pipes on the first or second fix? On the first fix?
Fred Cooke 31:28
Yes. Question two. That book is back the current Heineken Cup champions to win are to lose to win karang to lose. I tried to get it I tried to give you the answer. And I didn't even
Aidan Power 31:42
understand karate. Yeah. All right, here we go. Question three. True or false? There is such a thing as a double headed nail. False. No, it's true duplex nail it's called I suppose you complete the lyric trust me Trust me. I'm a doctor. I know. I know. I know what I'm doing I guess okay know what's true or false? chadwicks was first founded in 1902
Fred Cooke 32:10
true Yes. named the two brothers from the laces started to finish does a bit of a Come on. We started so you finished
the two brothers some Oasis or no? Nola name.
Aidan Power 32:24
You got it. And we didn't need that one. We
had God three but luminol gives you that nail like that nail was bullshit. Like a belt sander or skerton ladder was the other thing.
Aidan Power 32:34
Oh, we were talking about these last week. What else do we have right? Oh yeah. A bucket of steam. Yeah. been sent to the center chadwicks to buy the bubble for the spirit level.
Well do not they did that to me my first field and job I was no my second year I was 18 years of age and they went oh we'll get this guy in the brought me in and it'll be hilarious to send me to the hardware store and I went Yeah, no butter ads. I went straight to the pope for two hours. And I came back and I went we didn't have any of those things. That's
Aidan Power 33:01
nicely done. Well, breezy. Your efforts have scored Andy in his blue van waiting to go to Spain on his here's his song from Fred.
Fred Cooke 33:09
You reached the phone of Andy. Oh, Neil, please leave a message whatever way you feel. No response is your greatest need above on the busy is brick layer and needs to leave a message.
Aidan Power 33:26
Fred nicely done if you would like to get Fred to do your voicemail just so you get no charity round of applause from Bressie. I just I just caught two flies in my hand. If you'd like Fred to do your voicemail, you can send us a WhatsApp the number is eight 770 754 triple five. And you'll find that number in the show description right now. Brian, it's been an absolute pleasure chatting with you. Good luck with all the work you're getting done on the gaff and everything else that you do. Thanks, pal.
Thanks, guys. Take care. This is the under construction podcast from chadwicks. Arlen's leading builders, merchants and Home Improvement specialists.
Aidan Power 34:08
And that is it for this week. A really interesting conversation Fred, what did we learn?
Fred Cooke 34:13
Well, I think what we learned is a if you're called nod your sound and you're really helpful.
Aidan Power 34:20
Well said yeah, thank you to know Breslin and to Niall McGann chadwicks in Limerick and to you for listening. Now if you want our WhatsApp number to win our competition or send in your photo of the week. Our contact details are on the show notes along with all the details and links for our show today. We will be back with another podcast next Monday. And remember to hit the Follow button on your podcast app to get under construction every week. Until next time for me Aiden power and Mr. Fred cook Have a great week.
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Date: 10th Jun 2021
Chadwicks CEO Patrick Atkinson discusses why we need MORE apprentices and what needs to be done to remove the stigma surrounding apprenticeships. Dermot Carey from the Construction Industry Federation will be telling us about some of the Government grants and incentives available to employers for taking on an apprentice. And in our Joke of the Week can Don McCarthy clinch the top spot and be in with the chance of winning Chadwicks’ TOOL OF DREAMS!
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Patrick Atkinson, Chadwicks CEO
Patrick Atkinson returned to Ireland in 2015 to lead Chadwicks and Heiton Buckley just as the building trade began to boom again. Since becoming the CEO in 2017 Patrick is leading a long-term plan for the Chadwicks Group, which he hopes will help the company maintain its position in Ireland as the lead builders' merchant brand.
Dermot Carey, Construction Industry Federation
Dermot Carey heads up Safety & Training Department within the CIF. Dermot has responsibility for developing and guiding the CIF’s policy in these areas. Along with shaping policy, the role involves liaising with Government departments, Education sector and members on issues and providing assistance with member safety regulatory compliance. Included in this role is the operation of the Safe-T-Cert accreditation service and its day-to-day operations in the Republic of Ireland.
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This week on under construction with chadwicks.
Patrick Atkinson 0:05
We've made 20,000 just under 20,000. People are involved in apprenticeships, that's up from about 1000 about five years ago. So there's been a big push on by government and by sellers to try and raise the awareness and get more people involved in apprenticeships.
check your mirrors, volume. The under construction podcast with Asian power and Franco starts now.
Aidan Power 0:31
Welcome once again to the podcast. Hope you're doing well. This week it's all about apprenticeships. Chadwick CEO Patrick Atkinson will discuss why we need more apprentices and what needs to be done to remove the stigma surrounding them. dermacare from the construction industry Federation will be telling us about some of the government grants and incentives available to employers for taking on an apprentice. And it's back. It's our joke of the week now john Flynn is still top of our Joker board. But this week john McCarthy is aiming to knock him off top spot and hopefully pick up the chadwicks tool of dreams Mr. Fred cook How you doing sir?
Fred Cooke 1:01
Oh my god.
Aidan Power 1:02
Hey, did you have to serve an apprenticeship in in comedy like it would in the construction industry?
Fred Cooke 1:08
I did. Yeah. I guess I supported loads of comedians and I learned a lot from those glasses for the Tommy for to your Tommy tiernan for two years. So that was great. And you think you know, there's lots of pranks and comedy circuit we're not your claims. Well, what I was what I was amazed by in the construction site is there's just as many pranks obviously like, like I'm where I live the moment there's so much going on with building and a lot of builders are telling me that you know, the prank and all these new kids are new to the job. Now, some of them were quite obvious. Initially, I got the first one myself, like one kid was sent off to get a bucket of steam. But the bit i love about that was the guy behind the trade suppliers behind me sat behind the desk. He says if one person if another kid comes along under the age of 17, he's asking for a bucket of steam. I swear to God, I'm busy enough these days, but I'd have to deal with this. Another Skyhawk. He was sent off to get a sky Hawk. I was like,
Aidan Power 2:08
do you think people are actually falling for this? But
Fred Cooke 2:11
you know what, when you're when you're, I guess if you're arriving to your job, you might be kind of half asleep and a bit tired and yourself you know you and you don't ask questions. You're not sure the assumption is these guys know what they're talking about. So I'm going to get to the sky hook.
Aidan Power 2:23
I do what they tell me to do.
Fred Cooke 2:26
I'll find out what the Skyhook is later on. But no, I didn't get it. A skirting board ladder. Those yelled when I had to go on board letter. Yeah, and so but then some of them are more physical. I went online to see what more problems can happen. One guy was asked if he could if he could jumpstart a chainsaw. He was running the blade along the cement floor trying to get the chainsaw working so doing it for a minute while the guy was laughing, you know? Now can be very cruel and there's a lot of pain involved as well. When when you see what happens with these builders, right drop kicking loose pipes, you know, like, like, like trying to get into the goals right just to lose pipes. But one guy needed a job. He didn't know that one of the pipes was actually buried into the concrete. Yeah, and if you watch it, he really hurt his leg. throat laughing but then there's a bit of silence. Are you okay? their shame. Sorry.
Unknown Speaker 3:26
Your joke you know,
Aidan Power 3:28
Fred Cooke 3:29
Exactly. Yeah. nailing the toolbox onto the floor, simply
Aidan Power 3:35
gluing stuff down on them glue and details like that. Alright, let's hear from Tara Garvey. Now Tara is a Tyler. She's based in London, and she's gotten touch to reveal some of the pranks that she's come across over the years on site. Hey,
Unknown Speaker 3:49
this is Tara here. I have got a few funny stories has happened to me over the years that I've witnessed. So one of them was when I be on site, the lads would often ask the new people on board, would they go and get the strike paint? And the other famous one was the glass hammer? By
Aidan Power 4:10
glass hammers and stripy paint? And what about if anyone has ever found the bubble for the spirit level? Can they please get in touch with the podcast? Because we're still looking to find out where we can buy one can you get one of those in chadwicks? Anyway, if you want to share some of your best friends from a job that you've been working on, you can get in touch. Our contact details are in the podcast description.
Trade talk tips, and Bandra. This is the under construction podcast from chadwicks pledge getting done.
Aidan Power 4:36
Well now it's time to welcome to the podcast a big boss man of chadwicks it's Patrick Atkinson. CEO. Hello, Patrick. How are you? Hi, Aiden. How you doing? Oh, you sound a lot friendlier than we were expecting. Like, oh, CEO, Big Boss, man. Maybe he's a scary man. Not at all. Hi, thanks for joining us on the podcast. It's all about apprenticeships this week. Give us a sense to start Patrick. of apprenticeship numbers and the likes in Ireland at the moment. Are they are they down Do we need More,
Patrick Atkinson 5:00
we definitely need more. At the moment we've about across across the four years of apprenticeship with about 20,000, just under 20,000. People are involved in apprenticeships, that's up from about 1000, about five years ago. So there's been a big push on by, by government and by scholars to try and raise the awareness and get more people involved in apprenticeships.
Aidan Power 5:21
And would that kind of be in line with how the housing market and the crash and all those kind of things numbers fluctuate as a result of that?
Patrick Atkinson 5:28
Yeah. And when we were falling short of where we need, I mean, they obviously construction is, has gone way up in the last few years. And probably because there's a four year period where for apprentices to qualify, you know, there's always a lag behind when you get the market turning up from the number that we have. And then you know, it's cyclical business. So by the time it gets to the top and we've got enough, it's it's starting to go down again. So that's one of the big problems we have with apprenticeships.
Aidan Power 5:54
Okay, so four years is the term for an apprenticeship, what age can you start?
Patrick Atkinson 5:59
You can start at the age of 16. And that's that's a minimum requirements. And and what you really need then is to have done your Jr, shirt search and get five DS is your minimum requirements. So
Fred Cooke 6:10
sorry, Patrick, how long would an apprenticeship usually last?
Patrick Atkinson 6:14
So between two and four years, because depends on the type of apprenticeship. So there's 27 different craft apprenticeships, and there's about 35 others. So whether they're q six q seven, and they go up as far as q 10, in terms of the level of education, so it's, yeah, typically four years for anything in construction.
Aidan Power 6:36
Have Chadwick's taken on many apprentices.
Patrick Atkinson 6:38
We actually don't take any apprentices down because that's, that's not what we do apprenticeships are really for people who are in the actual construction phase of the of the supply chain. So we supply a lot of materials, but we don't actually build anything. What we have done is we've developed our own trainee ships, which in association with the college and Teller, just to to bring in young people to teach them about how to be part of the builders, merchanting trades, we teach them our products, but the needs of our customers, and all of that. So we have been running that for the last couple years.
Aidan Power 7:12
Okay. What are attitudes like towards young people taking on apprenticeships?
Patrick Atkinson 7:17
It varies. You know, the, the, you know, there's been a recent survey done and about 10% of those who are involved in apprenticeships have heard about apprenticeships from their career guidance people, about 75% of them here from family members or friends who were involved in apprenticeship. So you're much more likely to become an apprentice, if you've been part of a peer group or family have been involved in apprenticeships. So if your dad was an electrician, you might look at become an electrician, or a carpenter or a plumber. Because you're familiar with that. When you look outside of that people who haven't been involved in apprenticeships, it's it just kind of looked down on it's kind of a second class citizen, I think in terms of you know, we have a, we have a high degree of access to, to universities in this country, we get a lot of people go on that. And we and we put great, great store in that. And I think that's a positive thing that we we educate a lot of people to university level, but we don't always see apprenticeships as a as a credible option. When you look at you know, about 5000 young people going into apprenticeship every year, we have 80,000 people don't even start you know, and and the same number during Junior search, and you only need Junior start to get in. So it's actually a very small number. You know, it's kind of two or 3% of people leaving school actually end up in in apprenticeships,
Fred Cooke 8:32
Patrick is running parts of the trade that are seeing a shortfall in apprentice numbers.
Patrick Atkinson 8:37
Every single trade is seen as shortfall again, in a survey done recently 86% of all construction companies said they were short of skilled labor. So it's massive. But what we're seeing is there are some trades where there are no apprentices in apprenticeships in at the moment. And so we've we've known in tiling, we've no one in painting, we've no one in plastering, like, these are key skills that we need in this country and and people are not opting to do them as apprenticeships at the moment.
Aidan Power 9:03
So but you're involved in a trying to raise awareness, but tell us about the access apprenticeship program, what's involved and how people can get involved.
Patrick Atkinson 9:11
Yeah, so I got involved in that I was I was involved very involved with WorldSkills over a number of years for about 10 years in a previous life. And I sit on the on the board of WorldSkills Ireland and out of my association with that and went to Dublin. I agreed to chair an advisory board, which allows for a program called access to apprenticeship to happen that's funded by by private sector. And basically what that does, it takes a inner city children who have fallen out of the formal education program, and we put our arm around them and say come in and work with us for 12 weeks, we give you access to 10 different different skills. And if you can find one that suits you, we get you some work experience in that and that then hopefully allows them I'm going to use the term back to into into an apprenticeship. But it really without that program these these young people wouldn't otherwise be able to get access because they may not have that proper Junior surge or fall native education earlier than that.
Aidan Power 10:13
And as well as the numbers being down particularly pot when it comes to women, how short are we fall in when it comes to women apprentices?
Patrick Atkinson 10:19
It's pretty shocking to be honest with you, I think in 2015, there was 27 women involved in apprenticeship now that's gone up. It's just over 1000 2017 at the moment, wow. So it's been a big increase. But there's also been a shift away from not away from what to include other apprenticeships besides the what we call the craft apprenticeship. So there are things like property management and insurance and other other skills involved now are the apprenticeships involved. So that's probably more attractive to to a broader section of the community and
Aidan Power 10:53
probably a more diverse section of the community. And Pat, just to go back to when you talk about our school system, and maybe a sense of snobbery, or how we view academia versus more practical skills. How do we fare compared to other countries? When we look at the likes of France and Germany? They see their apprentices in a very different light, don't they?
Patrick Atkinson 11:11
Yeah, they do. So if you go to Germany, I mean, vocational and academic education is seen on a par. So there, it's not one is better than the other, they're absolutely it's one or the other. So the whole equation, so Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and indeed, limit ta in France is the same, you know, so your, your, your, your carpenter, electrician, in some, some parts of France would be more valuable than your local GP To be quite honest with you. And, you know, one of the things that we used to say, in the global world scale, his business was, you know, there is no economy without scales, you know, you can do with accountants, but you can't really do without, you know, the builder or the, or the, the electrician or the plumber, you know,
Fred Cooke 11:51
so perfect. That's so interesting, because I went to school and Calvin, and I guess was a different tier system, like those different ranges of classes. Like for me, it was five classes. So like, and it was seen, and it shouldn't have been seen as top, second, top, middle, second, bottom and bottom. And I was in second bottom, I had the best laugh for five years, and I managed to get a lot done in is for a lot of people in my class would have been really good at woodwork, and, and metalwork. And a lot of people at the top are put into the academic side of stuff. So I guess, I guess what the question is, is that it's those people now who are doing work, they have a trade, and this is 20 years later, you know, what I mean dev a phenomenal, fantastic, comfortable life and are still more creative than a lot of people in the academic world. Do you
Patrick Atkinson 12:36
find that 100% and look, the real difference is often that that the people who work for apprenticeships, they learn by doing rather than learning by reading and and that's that's often a differentiator. And we've also seen that you know, we are we were traditionally an agricultural based country and and, you know, the oldest son got the lands probably solve your your cabin, Fred, you probably will have experienced this. And then the second guy probably because, you know, farmers and farmers, sons and daughters were used to doing things hands on and learning how to how to build walls or do a bit of basic electricity or plumbing or whatever. And they invariably were the ones who went into skills but since we've seen a big move off the land, we're getting less of that cohort coming into into the the apprenticeships. So we're dependent on really the sons and daughters of people who are in the trades to do it. You know, and that can be you know, apprenticeships can be hairdressing. They can be confectionery, they don't, they don't honestly need to be bricklaying and welding. You can also I think, Pat, certainly,
Aidan Power 13:35
I anecdotally knows this from many of my friends who are trades people. It's lucrative.
Patrick Atkinson 13:40
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I actually, I heard I tell this story, sometimes I was talking to a friend of mine recently, and she was mentioned about skills and said, You know, that's not really for our children. And I said, Well, I don't agree. I said it's really lucrative. I said, How much did you pay your accountant last year? She said about 600 euro I said, How much did you pay your hairdresser? How much did you pay your electrician or your plumber when they came around a lot more than that, I can guarantee you every single every single time so it's it can be very lucrative and and we have a massive scarcity. go looking for a builder right now and you won't find 1am I too old to do an apprenticeship that no no in we'd love to have you
Aidan Power 14:16
always need a plan B or sorry.
Fred Cooke 14:20
I guess with me who probably works in the comedy industry, I was very lucky to have an apprenticeship with Tommy tiernan. And for two years getting to travel with him and I find something that you talk about there. And the wonderful thing about a getting into an apprenticeship is that if you if you tell someone to do something, they might remember what if you get them involved? They'll never forget. You know what I mean? And and that's that's the importance I find of what's going on here and how important it is they defined an apprenticeship.
Patrick Atkinson 14:45
Yeah. And then in the US used to call them the journeyman and then you know, when you're when you're talking about your, your experience there you were the journeyman, still on.
Aidan Power 14:55
We're all on the journey. You're gonna stay with us because very soon you'll be taken on the pod Quiz we'll see how much you know about many different subjects not giving anything away. But for now Patrick Atkinson Chadwick Co. Thanks very much.
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Aidan Power 15:23
It is time for our joke of the week. And as well as a belly laugh we are playing for the tool of dreams. So here's how it works. You send us in your joke. If at the end of the series, it is top of the leaderboard judged and scored by Mr. Fred cook, you will win your tool of dreams and that does what it says on the tin when you go into chadwicks. What is that tool that you've always desired that you Yes, have in your tool belt, or indeed your toolbox and you want to be the envy of everyone on site. If you're top of the leaderboard, you will win the tool of dreams. So here's this week's contender. He is Don McCarthy, a retired civil engineer and maybe about to take up a job in full time comedy take it away done.
Unknown Speaker 16:01
My mother in law fell down a wishing well. I was amazed. I never knew they weren't.
Fred Cooke 16:15
Fred, what do you think? Oh, I love the DOM. Donnie. He's hilarious. It's brilliant delivery. Right? I'd say you know one joke in one sentence. One joke. It's like Tommy Cooper isn't and it's like, it's like your back what's wrong my back or take my mom? classic, classic jokes.
Aidan Power 16:36
To be compared to Tommy Cooper. Don will do delivery was very good from dawn. We like that.
Fred Cooke 16:42
I'd say I'd say I think we've a new a new winner so far. I can't give him an eight out of 10.
Aidan Power 16:48
Okay, john, that puts you automatically top of the leaderboard, the highest score before that. 6.5. So you were well in the lead Dan McCarthy, you're one step closer to winning the tool of dreams. So if you want to try and be done, get a higher score than eight for Mr. Fred cook. All you got to do is send us in your job to go top of the Joker's board. And you can get in touch by sending us a voice note. You'll find our WhatsApp number in the podcast
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Aidan Power 17:20
Joining us now is Dr. Macquarie the director of safety and training from the construction industry Federation to continue our conversation on apprentices Dermot, welcome to the podcast. How are you all go? Thanks very much and thanks for having me on. pleasure. Thanks for being with us. We're learning a lot about apprenticeships this week. And you can fill us in more Dermot. Firstly,
Dermot Carey 17:37
let's start with the government and what they're doing certainly in recent times to help promote apprenticeships because we were hearing from Patrick earlier that they're very much needed. Absolutely apprenticeships are very much needed. And government has been putting a lot of efforts in the last number of years to promote apprenticeship and and raise awareness and apprenticeship. With generation apprenticeship is is one of the major initiatives that government have launched in the last three or four years some of the today. One of their initiatives which is a schools based initiative comes to an end as in the awards that the the winners of a competition are going to be announced today. But generation apprenticeship is is an initiative for fronted by solace solace is the training organization the national training organization. The generation apprenticeship is targeted at school leavers career changers, to advise them of apprenticeship is what it's all about, and does a generation apprenticeship website. And more recently, the government. Simon Harris minister Simon Harris is very positive for his apprentices and wants to promote the apprenticeship generally, and launched the apprenticeship Action Plan, which is a four year action plan starting this year finishing in 2025, which has five major objectives. Ultimately principal objective is to promote apprenticeships more get people to know what what the apprenticeship is, and outline the career paths possibilities that are there and expand the numbers of apprenticeships that are available. So there's a lot being done currently, by government promote apprenticeships,
Fred Cooke 19:13
how many apprenticeship places are available per year?
Dermot Carey 19:16
Well, I suppose that's very much a function of how the economy is doing at any one time because apprenticeship or apprenticeship to be available you need an employer is very much on like ca or so that people may well be familiar with ca o and university places that there's an exact number of places every year. That's not the case for apprenticeship. It depends on the number of employers and I'm just looking in prep I suppose for today, I just look to see how many apprenticeships are currently live. So there's nearly 18,000 apprentices out there currently. And at the height of the boom, I thought when I say boom, we're back in 2008. There were in only one year about 1000 apprenticeships offered last year and I'm skipping 2020. We all know why because COVID really kind of cleared the bridge for everybody there. So there were just over 5000 new apprentices registered in 2019. And that was a curve that was continually going up. So we expected it to increase but obviously we got hit with with COVID. But I suppose government's target is that there'd be 10,000 apprenticeships available every year in a broad range of careers. And it's 10,000. That's the target per year.
Aidan Power 20:35
Okay, so there's a big drive on to increase numbers and perhaps also maybe change perceptions as well of apprenticeships.
Dermot Carey 20:42
Maybe perceptions is the wrong word, but maybe to educate people on the potential for apprenticeships. I think Irish people are very focused on university and success looks like a university course. Which is not necessarily the case, we'd have many when I say we as in the construction industry Federation, we'd have many of our members and managing directors and chief executive officers who would have gone to an apprenticeship and learn their trade the business through an apprenticeship and now we're in very high positions within their own companies. And either they own a company or they're the managing director of companies. So we need to educate people on the potential but also need to provide them with a broader range of apprentices, apprenticeships, and that's partially what's being done at the moment, as part of the generation apprenticeship and apprenticeship action plan to broaden the appeal of apprenticeships and broaden the the choice in relation to apprenticeships.
Aidan Power 21:43
And what about from the employer side, anyone listening? Who might want to take on an apprentice what incentives are there to do that?
Dermot Carey 21:51
Well, I think employers have to see the benefit of apprenticeship in best they can train an individual to work in their business and understand their business. But also there are currently under the an initiative announced last year as part of digitalise stimulus as a result of COVID. There's what they call the apprenticeship incentivisation scheme, whereby any employer who registered apprentices by the 30th of July, and that's maybe worked, announced and again, it's 30th of July this year, if they register their apprentice, there is 3000 euro bonus signup, bonuses, the wrong word, but I grant forward stash, puts out apprentice, but also under that a little bit of complexity here in that, particularly anybody in the construction sector and what would be known as the pre 2016 apprentices, which are really all the construction related apprentices, apprenticeships. Those employers while they are the apprentices after job, and then you need to understand those two types of training involved on the job and after job after job means that the apprentices either in a training center or they're in an institute of technology, and while they're there, their salary or their wage is paid for by the state. So there's quite a quite a good incentive for employers to take on an apprentice.
Aidan Power 23:19
It's Win win in that regard. And it's important as you've outlined that we need to increase the numbers of apprenticeships, we also seen a greater choice in the types of apprenticeships that you can do.
Dermot Carey 23:29
We are indeed and I think currently, when we're sorry, when work began to develop apprenticeships, probably four years ago and increase the number of apprenticeships there were 25 apprenticeships available principally in the construction sector. But since then, a lot of work has gone on to create new apprenticeships, and I'm just looking at a list here. So we now have somewhere in the region of 60 apprenticeships in in broad areas, such as accounting technician, hairdressing, retail supervision, sales, Lean Sigma operator GL a driller, and indeed within the construction sector, our own organization or organization fantasy is if I've completed work on an apprenticeship and scaffolding which will be launched within the next couple of weeks. And currently, we have a group working on an apprenticeship in roofing so there's, there is a lot more choice there. And then there was previously and that level that that choice is beginning to increase and will increase over the coming years as as various different trades and organizations realize the potential of apprenticeship and begin to develop an apprenticeship in their own specific area.
Aidan Power 24:45
Well, Jeremy, thank you so much for joining us and informing us about all that there's something there for everyone, including people seeking an apprenticeship, but also employers and the benefits they can get from that. So dermacare is the director of safety and training from the construction industry Federation. Thank you for being with us.
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Aidan Power 25:15
for this week's pod quiz and our contestant is chadwicks CEO Patrick Atkinson. Are you ready? I am ready. Good. I like it nice and cam you need to get three questions right you've got one minute in which to do this and if you achieve that, you will be winning for Fergal O'Brien, who is a renewable engineer in Wexford. Not the Snooper player I don't believe unless he's diversified. You'll be winning a song from Fred, Fred, you've got the song ready to go.
Fred Cooke 25:39
I'm ready to go in.
Aidan Power 25:40
Alright, Fred's gonna keep score Pat, very best of luck. Here we go. What does it mean Pat to bleed a radiator? It means to basically take the air out of it. Correct. Question two, what should you do before drilling a hole in the wall? market? You need to do that I'll accept. Why would you wrap a paintbrush and clingfilm. Stop from drying out? Okay, let's move on to rob because I know you're passionate about that. What country is Lyons? Hey coach Warren Gatland from Wales. Gonna take your person that's, you know, it was New Zealand. One Irish player holds the record for most Celtic league pro 12 and pro 14 tries scored. I'll give you options. Is it a Gordon to RCB Tommy bow or see Robbie Henshaw? Oh, okay. It's Tommy bow. All right, let's get a squeeze one more in what should you paint first when you're painting a room? Is it the ceiling? The skirting boards are the walls and ceiling is the right answer. And that is our time or Pat. I think you did better than you needed to do. Let's find out Fred. How did he do?
Fred Cooke 26:48
You got four wives. got four wives. Sorry. Four white walls. And you got four is that enough for us? Okay, good. Okay, but
Aidan Power 27:02
that's like Yeah, okay. I'm happy with that could have done better. Yeah. Okay, but yeah, that that was a tough enough one. All right. Congratulations to pat it means Fergal O'Brien not the snooker player. The renewable engineer gets a song from Mr. Fred cook.
Fred Cooke 27:17
You read Fergal O'Brien's phone leave a message after the tone though I got back now. Don't you fear cuz I worked Fred's best engineer. Come on.
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Aidan Power 27:42
That's our podcast for you this week. Thanks to Patrick Atkinson, the CEO of chadwicks and dermacare. He's the director of safety and training from the construction industry Federation. Before we go as always, Fred, what did you learn this week
Fred Cooke 27:52
aid when I learned this week is you'll always get paid when you own your own trade.
Aidan Power 27:58
Nicely said, well, we're back on another podcast next Monday. Remember, you can hit the Follow button to get under construction every week from me Aiden power and Mr. Fred cook Have a great week.
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Date: 31st May 2021
PETE THE BUILDER’S HOME OFFICE RENOVATION
Builder and RTÉ Home Rescue star Peter Finn provides some top tips on what to consider when creating a home office. Whether it’s a full home office renovation, or simply sprucing up a work from home area, Peter offers up advice on the right materials and tools to get the job done!
Fred Cooke reveals why he would want a brand new construction robot for his home in Kerry.
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Plus, Chadwicks Sallynoggin Branch Manager Carmel O’Flaherty discusses what’s important for Chadwicks customers right now and the lack of female apprentices coming through in the industry.
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Peter Flynn AKA Pete The Builder
Peter stars in the TV makeover show Home Rescue on RTÉ and has also appeared on numerous Room to Improve shows. Peter is known as a positive representative for the Construction Industry in general. He is a Carpenter by trade and holds numerous other construction accreditations. Having learned his trade with a small house builder, he moved on to a construction management position in TCD. The call of site and construction adventure encouraged Peter to open his own construction company that delivered many years of successful projects.
Carmel O’Flaherty, Chadwicks Sallynoggin Branch Manager
Carmel has been branch manager of the Chadwicks Sallynoggin store for the last 11 years. Carmel has excellent track record in senior management roles within the builders providers market and has a proven ability of adapting to diverse business divisions within the Chadwicks’s Group over a successful career spanning 20 years.
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Aidan Power 0:33
Welcome once again to the under construction podcast. Great to have you along Pete the builder aka Peter Finn from the RT hit show home rescue. We'll be dropping by to discuss home offices and how he made his break into television. Plus, Peter is going to take on this week's pod quiz. Also Chadwick selling Oregon branch manager, Carmelo Flaherty will tell us what's important for chadwicks customers right now and also talk about the lack of female apprentices who are coming through in the industry. Also we will have our joke of the week now john Flaine last week scored six and a half out of 10 but it does put john currently top of our Joker board because he was the first ever now we'll Giambi dethrone this week Remember, the overall winner at the end of the series will win their tool of dreams Fred Kok How are you sir?
Fred Cooke 1:24
I'm mighty I'm very excited this week because I've just realised how slow for me it's going to get a lot an awful lot easier. Australian technology startup prime stone tougher v lives new construction robot that both of us the boat that by boat, I think are the boba. That's what it's called. Right? This is incredible, right? It can drive in screws, it can wield, it can sand and it can paint different services. Now, this is amazing. The only thing I need is I need a robot to do all of this. But also to explain to my partner why it took so long to do in the first place.
Aidan Power 1:58
It's Austrian inventors, you need to work that in unless you have to go to have that Fred.
Fred Cooke 2:04
Oh, it's insane. Like and you know what? It's, I've also read that it can do the dishes, it can clean dishes, and I was like that's Oh my god, I'll never have to work again. And then my partner says, Yeah, of course I can clean the dishes. We have that robot already in the house. It's called a dishwasher. And I was like, Yeah, well, technically the dishwasher cleans the dishes, right? But I've never seen I've never seen someone walk around room to room and pick up each individual dirty page and put that into the dishwasher to clean the dishwasher. clean the dishes, right? And then Jesus meat will either have it Fred, I've never seen it myself.
Aidan Power 2:36
Robot robot, it just won't actually pick up the dishes for you. Right we're going to hear from one of our listeners. His name is Mark Brown. He's originally from Wicklow, but Mark moved to Roscommon. And with the extra bit of land Mark has built a cabin, or as he likes to call it. And I think if you look at the picture, on the podcast picture right now, you will see why this is deserving of the title, the Fortress of Solitude. Let's hear about it from Mark.
Unknown Speaker 3:00
Mark here. I moved to Roscommon about two years ago. And it was always a dream of mine to have somewhere to entertain guests and have a couple of parties or whatever. So we bought a log cabin and had it had a built in the backyard. And so we managed to get the pool table into it and the TV and the sport is all there for when people are over. Unfortunately, this year now we're not getting too much use of COVID in that, but hopefully this summer now things have settled back down again, and we'll be able to have a few parties or whatever. I might even get the L bar built in. So yeah, that's my story. Thanks, guys.
Aidan Power 3:39
That's my story. And I'm sticking to a Thank you, Mark. And yeah, what a reason to move to Roscommon to party. In your Fortress of Solitude. It's kind of an upgrade on the mancave thread, isn't it?
Fred Cooke 3:49
It's unbelievable. And you know what? even looking at that cabin, I feel relaxed and I can hear it in Mark's voice as well. He's so relaxed. He's so unfazed, having a pool table and widescreen TV and ultimately a bit of solitude. I'd love it. The only thing i'd i'd want in my Fortress of Solitude is just a seat, a seat that I can sit on. So you just want to be you want to be alone here. Absolutely. Yeah, I just want to sit down for three hours and do nothing because I'm so busy. You know, I haven't been able to sit down and do nothing since I've sat maths paper one.
Aidan Power 4:23
So you want to return to that. Dare I say empty headed space? Once upon a time? If you have this fancy Fortress of Solitude, you need more than a chair. What else do you want?
Fred Cooke 4:32
Well look, I keep the widescreen TV that he has as well but I wouldn't have football because I'm not really that into sport. I'd probably when my friends right i'd want to have like one episode of countdown on repeat.
Aidan Power 4:43
Why does one well then
Fred Cooke 4:45
my mates will think I'm a genius because I know all the answers.
Aidan Power 4:50
Oh, Fred goddess Evan. Well, Rachel Riley on repeat not so bad. Anything else on your widescreen Fred or just that?
Fred Cooke 4:57
Oh, well, I'd say I'd love to have real in in the year. But only specifically the years from 99 to 2004. Specifically, those years I drank so much that religion in the years would tell me about stuff I didn't know about
Aidan Power 5:10
the missing years. But okay, well, Mark, thank you so much for sending us your Fortress of Solitude. We hope you get the bar in soon. And you can have those parties that you are much looking forward to. If you have a picture of a construction project that you'd like to share with us, it's very simple, you can get in touch. Our contact details are in the podcast description, the younger construction podcast from Chadwick's. Get it automatically by clicking the Follow button on your podcast app right now. Now Peter Finn, aka Pete, the builder for mortiz hit show home rescue is joining us to discuss many things, including creating a home office space, making this break into tele and also the upcoming series of home rescue. Pete, welcome to the podcast.
Pete the Builder 5:49
Thank you very much for having me. Now, one
Aidan Power 5:51
thing that seems to be very popular at the moment, for the past year, many people being forced to work from home, working off their kitchen table working off the ironing board, some were even doing their zoom calls and the jacks because it was only quiet place in the house. From the business side of things from the trade side of things, you're going to give us some advice now, because a lot of people are going to continue to work from home and might be looking to upgrade from the kitchen table. So first things first, Pete, if space is a premium, which it is for many people, what would you recommend people in the tray to consider when looking at fitting out a room as a home office?
Pete the Builder 6:21
Yeah, look at absolutely the world has changed and no doubt about it. And somewhat some of the benefits of this pandemic is that people can actually walk from home bought, as you very nicely described, there are some people are doing it in very interesting places on ironing boards and toilets all over the place. So I think there's a real need for people to actually take the next step and, and create a dedicated workspace. And that's what's happening a lot and gotten quite a few phone calls. And from people asking me, you can only have to melt. And it can be quite easily done. It doesn't have to be anything too convoluted, you can basically take that room, that is a spare room in your house or just bare corner of your house and dedicated to become a home office. So there's obviously a few simple principles that you have to follow, it has to be a desk dedicated workspace. So you have to make sure that it's in a part of the house that the kids won't be barging down and run and then in the middle of a zoom call. And I think we've all experienced that one. And then not a sound, and is obviously a key thing. But obviously Lloyd and you want to create a nice environment so that you can walk you can get the the imagination flowing, and you can do what you need to do. So that that's really kind of the principles. And I suppose it's about finding that space in your in your house, some people have very limited space, some people have maybe a spare room that they're using for, you know, just storage. So my advice would be if you have a room in your house that you're not using properly, clear it out and make that your home office, obviously you can go as far as open to the attic, and then out into the garden is what some people have done with or actually have built a dedicated home office. Usually people try and do it in a duel way. It's a home office during the day and it has something else and order function in the evening, you know,
Aidan Power 8:01
okay, so depending on on your budget really depends what you can do. But with prices really fluctuating at the moment? Is there particular materials, if people are looking on a cost effective end of things for a job at a home office?
Pete the Builder 8:14
Yeah, absolutely. Like if you have the room already, obviously, that's a very good start. For them, I think you know, the key things is you need to setup your work environment so that it's suitable and it's a comfortable place to walk and soul and tamely you want to make sure if it's a room that's upstairs in your house, insulate that attic, very, very cheap and effective way of saving your money and also creating a warm environment. And then if it's if the walls are an issue, you can obviously get there with the Walmart and chadwicks and then do your do your your walls as well, that also gives you the opportunity to put in some more services if required. And then you get down to the kind of better practical side of things, and then you get your aesthetics. So obviously, creating the Royal Life with a proper paint, and noise coolers. And then obviously, your floors you can you can do lots of stuff with our floors there, a laminate floor, a solid floor, solid timber floor can go down. And these these create these simple products are available, and they're not very expensive, and they can create a room that then is somewhere that you'll want to go and work in. And like everybody has to get up and do it on the fly but it's easier if it's it was at the end of the hallway and it's in in those environments. And then you've got your sheet materials down that you can use to make your your home office desk, your storage areas you know so all these are all simple materials. They're all there and at any of your your your your local chocolate stores, and all very affordable you just need to avoid or get someone else to do it for you or become the handyman and get stuck in and doing it yourself.
Aidan Power 9:44
Yeah. And if you found Pete, yourself and your fellow colleagues that you've had to learn a bit more about the home office construction and design and even bring some of your own interior decoration skills when you're advising customers or indeed other people in the trade who might ask you What's the best way to do an outdoor office for someone?
Pete the Builder 10:03
Yeah, well, an outdoor offices is, is your ideal scenario, because you kind of start from scratch. And I suppose you just have to look at every person situation and the, the orientation of the house. Like, if it's close to a busy road, you have to think of acoustics, if it's at the back of the house and might not be as modular, all of those things come into play. So each, each situation is different. And you just have to kind of give advice, and also listen to what the person wants to try and achieve. And what the family lawyer his lawyer in, in the, in the house again, there's no point in building this, you know, mancave our she shared it has to be something that, you know, can be can be flexible enough to be the home office, but also can can have another use as well. You know,
Fred Cooke 10:47
Peter, I'm delighted he said that about acoustics because I guess I do so much work online. And so what would be the best way to tackle these acoustics in my room? Like right now? Like for a better sound? Well,
Pete the Builder 11:00
Fred, are you saying you taking attacking acoustics on Dancing with the Stars and you're afraid to go out? It's not a bar piano? yet? No, there's there's some very simple stuff, the materials that you use, you know, so like, if you've got a, we're going to get technical here going. So here we go. So you've got airborne, and you have impact sound. So impact sound is obviously somebody banging on the ceiling or on the wall beside you. And then you've got your airborne sound, which is sound. That's my son that close. Yeah, True. True. That's very good. Read, you've got the sound of a radio of traffic, all those type of things. So to eliminate them, you want to put in some cushion between your floor. So if you're putting down a laminate floor, for example, our semi solid floor, make sure that you put in a good acoustic layer in between, which helps impact sound and then obviously, you know, there is acoustic fibreglass as you can get for going into walls and on your ceilings and angels textures, you know, like you just put some soft textures into the room, you know, don't don't be too much or build for get the ideal pink colour on and get stuff like that the fabrics all absorb all the sounds, you know,
Aidan Power 12:08
Peter did I sent this slight little bit of jealousy there when you reference Fred been on Dancing with the Stars, because I follow you on Instagram. I've met you before. And I know you like to shake those hips at any opportunity. Is that a dream gig on the TVP? You want to be on Dancing with the Stars?
Pete the Builder 12:23
Well, you never know. You never know. It's, I have to say I thought the show was great. All crack and weld on Friday was brilliant. Not too bad on your side, and you know them. And I'll look, we'll see what happens. We've got the old commentaries of home rescues all. You know, they don't throw me off the airwaves on that one. And we'll see what happens.
Aidan Power 12:38
Well tell us more about the new series. Pete, are you back filming yet?
Pete the Builder 12:42
Yeah, we're just about to go back film. And now we're really exciting this year, and the show was a half an hour long, and we must be doing something right because we've now been given a full hour. So and that's good news. And bad news means Roshan gets more opportunity to torment me that I've got more work to squeeze in boredom. Yeah, no, it's great. So look, the show has gone from strength to strength. And there's certainly a demand out there for that type of show. And people seem to be tuning in so and the powers that be have pushed us to an hour we're starting our first filming just after the bank holiday weekend, as filamin six shows and then that will be on later in the year. I think it's going to be on September on the airwaves. So tune in everybody home rescue, let's
Aidan Power 13:24
do this nicely, don't be I'm a huge fan of this show as well. But when you're filming it, obviously we only see a very edited version of it. I'm sure there's tonnes, we there's tonnes of good stuff that we'd love to see, but maybe can't be used on camera, and how hard are those renovations?
Pete the Builder 13:40
And look, the show is an honest show in terms of like in order we it has to be because it's got such a sharp and filament time that you know, there's no real time for reshooting or re too much editing going on. But the half hour was probably too short of a period of time to capture everything that we do. Like there's oftentimes really spent hours hours like working on in some aspect of the build. And then when the reveal is done, it was like the camera just go straight past and I'd be going oh my god that took me hours. What am I like it's it's an old a great job to be involved in. it's it's a it's a real feelgood factor. I am. Look, there's lots of there's lots there. I'm really looking forward to the fact that's gone through an hour now because there'd be so much more content that wasn't seen before it can be can be seen. And I'm sure me and regime will have our usual banter going on and look some really exciting make overs. I've seen a couple of the stories for this year coming up and they're they're just the, the homeowners are in real need of literally a home rescue. So that's what we're here to do.
Aidan Power 14:40
We're going to do it Look forward to it, Pete and maybe within that TV era, there will be time for a little dance and Pete the builder segment. Who knows where we're at Pete, thanks for joining us. Never know. Thanks for joining us, Pete but you are staying with us because you will be taking part in our pod quiz very shortly. Thanks, Pete. Cheers, man. Thank you. This is the under construction. In podcast from Chadwick's. Let's get it done. Now each week on the podcast we were looking for your jokes for our joke of the week at the end of the series if you are the top Joker on the Joker's board, where you could win your tool of dreams from chadwicks
Fred Cooke 15:16
to love dream, send us your job joke. No matter what the joke may see two love dreams, sadness or job and you might win the two love dream.
Aidan Power 15:33
Oh, Friday. I'm so happy we now can send a legitimate act to the Eurovision next year. Yes. Right let's see what reaction we're going to get to this week's joke of the week. And reminder, if you do want to send us a voice note which your favourite joke or WhatsApp number is in the podcast description. So last week, john Flynn got a respectable six and a half out of 10 from Fred cook. This week, we have john Sullivan, aka Jordi. And he is trying to beat that score. Let's have a listen. All yours, john. I went to the zoo the other day. There was only a dog in it. It was a shih tzu. Oh, come on. Is that is and you? You're laughing? Fred.
Fred Cooke 16:14
I gotta give like, I don't want to like it. But I'm sorry. I do like it. I tell you what I give us. I think it's it's quick. It's nice. And it's, I'm not mad about the joke. I've kind of I've heard it before, but it's still a great joke. I tell you what I'll give you I'll give you a sec.
Aidan Power 16:29
He give him a generous six.
Fred Cooke 16:31
Unfortunately, it's not six and a half from last week so that the calibre needs to go up. I'm looking we're looking for at least in Asia in the next two weeks. You
Aidan Power 16:38
bet we are I don't know what it's going to take to get to get higher than that. But well, maybe not much, because I think six is a very good score. But Fred, Fred is the expert. Fred is the comedian, and Jordi. Jordi. JOHN Fred likes to joke so you are on the leaderboard unfortunately not top you're in second place with a score of six if you would like to try and beat that. Send us your jokes go top of our Joker's board you will win the tool of dreams. Now this is the tool that literally you dream about. And I know there's people listening who dream about tools when you go into that Chadwick store. What is that thing that is invading your dreams at night that you lost for and long for whatever its function may be. It could be yours if you're top of the Joker's board. So get your jokes into us by voice note on WhatsApp. The number is in the podcast description, trade talk tips and banter. This is the under construction podcast from Chadwick's. Let's get it done. Joining us now is Carmela flirty, and Carmel is the manager of the Chadwick store in selling organ in Dublin. Carmen, welcome to the podcast. How are you?
Carmel O’Flaherty 17:37
Fine. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me today.
Aidan Power 17:39
Carmen, how long have you been in the noggin? How long have you been branch manager there?
Carmel O’Flaherty 17:42
I'm on two years in the noggin and I've branch manager here for the last two years. I am I'm over 20 years with the chadwicks group 21 years with them. I'm branch manager since 2011. So I've been in several different branches at this stage.
Aidan Power 17:57
So at that stage of your career, are you a lifer?
Carmel O’Flaherty 18:03
We'll see, we'll see.
Aidan Power 18:05
So karma over the past year, despite everything that slowed down in so many other areas, you've been busier than ever, why? So
Carmel O’Flaherty 18:12
I suppose part of it is we've been the only retail that really has been open, because people haven't been going on holidays. And there's been an awful lot people are doing an awful lot of work within their houses and within their gardens. And there's still a big proportion of the population who are who are earning money. So the light, a lot of it's gone into DIY in one shape or the other
Aidan Power 18:33
money that might have gone into the two week holiday on the Costa Brava
Carmel O’Flaherty 18:38
exactly are gone into gone into clothes, you know, gone, you know, until the forms and what's considered non essential retail. We're certainly seeing a share of a
Aidan Power 18:49
show, would you say they are the big projects, the big trends at the moment home home renovations and the like, or is there other things going on?
Carmel O’Flaherty 18:55
Yeah, well, a lot of home or home? That's exactly it. I mean, you also have, you know, when say where people are doing, you know, we'll say office home offices, converting converting sheds into home offices, and some variation of pubs, you know, in in gardens. So you've all sorts of people coming up with all sorts of novel ideas, to allow working from home or to allow some form of recreation,
Aidan Power 19:21
the Carmel in the industry, the trade industry as a whole. If you kind of step back and look at it on a big scale, particularly here in Ireland, there is a shortfall of apprentices, especially females. This has been going on quite a while How bad is it?
Carmel O’Flaherty 19:35
There really has been very, very few apprentices trained since since the crash. So we have a ginormous issue with apprentices in this country. There's very, very few of them. So by default to that, you all you know what I mean? There is there was very few women apprentices to start with. It was it was my news. So you know as an extension that there's very, very few being trained. There's almost no women being trained as apprentices, I suppose that in relation to the whole construction industry and builders, providers, we have a weaver staff as staff shortage. And so there is opportunities for for people to come into the industry.
Aidan Power 20:14
And where does that begin? Carmel? Is this in school?
Carmel O’Flaherty 20:17
Where do you? Yeah, yeah, well, I would suggest, I would suggest, we probably have a lot more work to do in terms of, of, of going into schools of starting in the schools. I mean, definitely, in terms of women in construction, you know, if you draw, if you if you got kids in school to draw a picture of a person who's in construction, they'll draw a man, they're not going to think of a woman to start with. So So that is an issue to start with. And so there is so there's plenty of work to be done on that area.
Aidan Power 20:43
How can we encourage more females into the industry? how can how can it be enticing?
Carmel O’Flaherty 20:49
Look, I suppose on a day, I suppose you see, I suppose people don't even considered as an option. You know, they don't realise the option is there. And to start with, so I think I think there is more training to be done and we need to start at schools. That's the level we possibly need to start out.
Unknown Speaker 21:07
Carmel O’Flaherty 21:08
you know, the that it's more that possibly, there needs to be the likes of women brought into schools to show to show kids that this is an option that there is availability there. I suppose you see, as a country now we're gone very much our whole emphasis on points and leaving certs, you know, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know. But that's where we are.
Aidan Power 21:26
As branch manager. Do you think attitudes are changing towards women in the industry in any way?
Carmel O’Flaherty 21:32
Oh, yeah, definitely. They are changing. I mean, chadwicks, other had their first female branch manager in 2007. I mean, I'm a branch manager since 2010. And we now have seven branch manager. We've seven branch managers this year, two of them were appointed this year. So that definitely, definitely is a change. And we don't have any reps that are women. So there's plenty of room for improvement there. I suppose a lot of the women that are in the construction are still in administrative roles. So I definitely would like to see more women in operation roles.
Aidan Power 22:03
Okay, Carmen, it's been great to chat with you. Very interesting. Thanks so much for joining us on the podcast.
Carmel O’Flaherty 22:08
Unknown Speaker 22:10
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Aidan Power 22:23
Now Ortiz home rescue star Peter Finn is still with us and Pete is taking on this week's podcast on behalf of Dave molen, who is in mayo and Dave is a carpenter. So Pete I know you as a keen not only sports fan, but a keen practitioner, particularly of Gaelic football. Do you play for the over 40s Dublin team is that right?
Pete the Builder 22:41
Yeah, we've got a lovely title of called the Masters will pay for the dungeon Master's which is which is brilliant. We want the Lord into the house and an 18 got beaten by them Donnie gargoyles on the final and 2019. So I have a small knowledge of GAA and I've watched off an awful lot of ga footballers over the years that's what I'm well known for and so on my club St. Mary's and saga is well known for self defence and ga is the way we like to put it.
Aidan Power 23:03
Okay, well you talk about self defence MMA is a big passion of yours and you're also friends with JK john cabinet the legendary MMA coach, is that right?
Pete the Builder 23:11
Yeah. 100% john has bought a house fairly close to where I live we've touched base over the years over a couple of things but yeah, now and I'm I'm friends with john Calvin, everybody just in case you didn't know i'm john happens friends. Okay,
Aidan Power 23:23
you need to get three questions right within a minute in order for Dave mullet in Mayo to get his very own voicemail greeting composed and sung by the one and only Fred cook. So Pete we're gonna put one minute on the clock. All I will say T is we've got a mixture of questions about your line of work and your passions show Peter Finn. Here we go. Question one your co star of home rescue architect Roshan Murphy wants to know why do we set the start filming on the new series?
Pete the Builder 23:50
We are filming just after the June bank holiday weekend.
Aidan Power 23:54
So is the right answer question two MDF is an engineered wood product. What does the acronym MDF? Stanford
Pete the Builder 24:02
modified density fiberboard it
Aidan Power 24:05
incorrect it's medium. Question three. What name is given to the smooth cement finish of a solid floor?
Pete the Builder 24:13
What name is given to the school to
Unknown Speaker 24:16
snow spends finished? begins
Aidan Power 24:19
with s ends in D Yes, okay. Well more on the building questions. I think we'll move on from those quickly what name is given to an internal non supporting wall made from wood battens and covered with plasterboard?
Pete the Builder 24:31
That would be a stone partition.
Aidan Power 24:33
I don't even take that stone wall in what year did Stephen clugston kick the all Ireland winning point for Dublin?
Pete the Builder 24:40
That was 2015
Aidan Power 24:44
and they've been winning all Ireland's longer than that but 2011 against
Unknown Speaker 24:48
Pete the Builder 24:48
Oh my god.
Aidan Power 24:50
You're sweating. Pete let's go to our score. Master a Fred cook and find out the result. Did we get more than three
Fred Cooke 24:55
weld on Peter? He got three on the button.
Aidan Power 24:58
Oh, we did it. We did it. Did it Who else that was so close? It
Pete the Builder 25:03
all sounds really easy until the clock starts ticking. Then next minute, everything shuts down.
Aidan Power 25:07
You bet well Pete there's enough for Dave molen to get his very own bespoke song from Mr. Fred cook. Let's have a listen.
Fred Cooke 25:14
You've reached the phone of Dave Marlin not from me or best Carpenter you'll know even so.
Aidan Power 25:24
Nicely done Fred cook.
Pete the Builder 25:27
I'm jealous. I'm jealous. Welcome Fred.
Aidan Power 25:29
He'll do one for you as well though people charge and Peter Finn, aka Pete the builder. Thanks for being with us. Thanks
Pete the Builder 25:33
for meeting boys. Thank you very much
Unknown Speaker 25:36
Aidan Power 25:37
with chadwicks over 40 stores nationwide, so we're always local. Well, that is it from this week's podcast. A big thanks to Peter Finn, aka Pete the builder for chatting to us about home office projects and doing well in the pod quiz. Thanks also to Carmela flirty, the Chadwick selling album branch manager. Now before we head off into the sunset thread, what did you learn this week?
Fred Cooke 25:57
What I learned, I think after talking to Peter boater I'm probably more Dancing with the Stars and less MMA.
Aidan Power 26:05
That's a wise learning We will be back with another podcast next Monday. Remember to get it automatically just search under construction with chadwicks wherever you get your podcasts for me, Aiden power, and Mr. Fred cook chatty next Monday. The under construction podcast is produced by dustpod.ie for chadwicks. Ireland's leading builders merchants company where you can choose from the best products and expert advice to get the job done.
Unknown Speaker 26:32
drop into any of our 40 plus stores nationwide, or visit us online at chadwicks Dolly
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Unknown Speaker 26:41
Let's get it done.
Date: 24th May 2021
DAVE MOORES PERFECT PERGOLAS
Today FM’s Dave Moore has taken on an outdoor project, but Aidan and Fred reckon he’s had to call in a professional to help pull off the perfect pergolas!
Fred Cooke outlines his own dream shed with some interesting ideas on what he would put in it!
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Dave Moore is one half of the award-winning and hugely popular radio duo, Dermot & Dave, who you’ll hear every weekday on Today FM. Having never set foot in a radio studio before, Dave’s first job was the high-profile Breakfast show on 98FM. After 12 years of huge success, the show has since made the big move to the national airwaves, to lunchtimes on Today FM, and now sits in the highly-coveted 9am-12pm slot. Here, the show reaches a huge audience in Ireland every day. With every radio award possible, double-platinum comedy albums, World Records, a number one hit for Euro 2016 and a sold-out comedy tour, Dave’s radio career has been a stellar a success.
Pat Moore is the Chadwicks Group Category Director with full purchasing responsibility. Pat has worked in the building materials sector for the past 26 years. He began his career in Atlantic Homecare and Woodies before moving to the merchanting side of the business with Heiton Buckley and Chadwicks. Pat has an MSc in Business from the IMI and has recently completed a Professional Diploma in eCommerce from UCD.
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This week on under construction with Chadwicks
Dave Moore 0:05
I love DIY I love doing it and I love building things and I'm competent and confident in my abilities to do it. But this was a brand new beast to me Look I put down decks or doing it this way with the plastic pedestals the aluminium Joyce was a real
Pat Moore 0:19
challenge. It's a lot of people in this sector here in the machining sector, but even the best to try and offset as many price increases as possible. But this is a global situation. It's not just an Irish situation or even the UK situation. The Americans are taking us into a lot of a product that's already Chinese and that is really caused a lot of problems and it's putting a lot of pressure on pricing. seatbelts,
check your mirrors, volume. The under construction podcast with Asian power and Frank cook starts. Now.
Aidan Power 0:50
Coming up, we'll be chatting today FM's Dave more about his recent outdoor living project and finding out if he can give MacGyver a run for his money with his Construction Skills. Plus Chadwick category Director patmore talks to us about the industry post lockdown supply issues and the upcoming summer season. And if you have a joke that everyone needs to hear, you can send it to us on voice note on WhatsApp, and you'll find our number in the show description. I'm Aiden, he's Fred and for many lockdown has brought about the opportunity to learn new skills. Fred, did you discover any hidden talents good or bad about yourself over this past year?
Fred Cooke 1:26
A really good scale. I surprised myself this lockdown I painted two rooms.
Aidan Power 1:31
So what have you painted the Sistine Chapel in your gaff?
Fred Cooke 1:34
Not so much. No, no, no, it's more fun golf now it's more abstract.
Aidan Power 1:40
Is that mean there's patches on the wall?
Fred Cooke 1:42
You call the patches? I call them arch. Lucha it
Aidan Power 1:44
is lots of patches because man Fred well on this week's podcast we are looking at outdoor living projects. Here is Chadwicks customer Nikki mcentee, who's from Malinga. She's going to tell us about a pergola She recently completed in her back garden in a very unique way.
Hey there, I just wanted to tell you about DIY that myself and my husband took undertaken in our backyard. And a few weeks ago, we're sitting out on Easter Sunday, and the day was fabulous and glorious. And there was only one small problem. Our gigantic shed was taken over most of the space and the sunlight in the garden. So we went on Don Dale sold the shed, and we were left with a blank canvas of concrete. So we got a carpenter to come in and he built us a pergola. I think I'm saying that rice, and that was beautiful. We painted the charcoal, and then we were left with concrete floor and we couldn't afford to get back in our tiles. So I got stencils, nicely paint and I stencils, Moroccan style tiles onto the ground, and the transformation was fabulous. But my back, my shoulders, every part of my body was aching because there's a tree down on my hands and knees painting at all. When you look at the photographs, and you're sitting out there now enjoying a nice glass of cool white wine in the evenings. It's well worth this. So just let you know, my little DIY, thanks. This is Nikki.
Aidan Power 3:15
That's great stuff. Nikki, if you look at the podcast picture on your screen right now you can see just how good Nikki's handiwork is. how impressed Are you Fred?
Fred Cooke 3:23
I was so impressed by I'd like the detail of each title. It's so fantastic. And that you know, I'd love to be there myself. It reminds me being on holidays just out wide, beautiful toe that you do see, Joe, she's created a stage for self as well. You could have String Quartet stereo, you could have garden speeches, you could have a gig. I might even come over myself. I haven't gig them all and Gary out. So there's an opportunity there if he's wondering, thank
Aidan Power 3:44
you. Nikki's very own stage, it really is impressive at the stencilling is not only a novel and clever way to do it, but obviously a cheaper way than buying Moroccan tiles.
Fred Cooke 3:54
I can feel the heat of a holiday even looking at them. I'd love to walk along them on my bare feet and feel like I'm on holidays. Now granted, she does live on wall and guard so there won't be much heat from the times. But I can imagine that once I'm walking along with
Aidan Power 4:06
Fred and his bare feet, picturing himself in Malinga or Marrakech perhaps. Well, if you have a construction project that you want to share with us, you can get in touch our contact details are in the podcast description. Now, Fred, when it comes to the back garden, you don't have a shed, right?
Fred Cooke 4:23
No, I don't have a shed and I need to make it as quick as I can. Because I need a bit of headspace. I need my own time and I've got three main things that I'm going to have in my shed. Okay, so the first thing is Aiden, it needs to be soundproof. Right. And that's not that's not just not just because I want to be sitting in silence. It's because I don't want my neighbours on my family knowing that I'm a big take that time to thought to myself, I want a pool table as well because I think pool is great. And I don't know because I live so far out at the moment. If If I will have many friends to come over and play pool with me so I might just have a pool. table with the same colours for one set of balls. Okay, this
Aidan Power 5:04
is getting sadder. What's your third thing?
Fred Cooke 5:06
Just Yeah, I'd really want to learn more because the only time we get to sit down yet I'm still working.
Aidan Power 5:13
If we like a man on the job, even if you're even if you're half asleep, right, so you want the proper loan where you want the right
Fred Cooke 5:19
exactly, I read a great loan more with a with a low CD rack as well. Nice CDs I can play my take that Greatest Hits while I'm on the lawn as well.
Aidan Power 5:28
All right, Fred, well, thank you for sharing. I do really help you break out the community money and get that shed someday. Now if you are looking for ideas for a customer's back garden, you can take a look at Chadwicks 2021. outdoor living brochure. There are loads of great ideas in there. No cardboard cutouts of Fred or Gary Barlow, though,
under construction with Chadwick's over 40 stores nationwide, so we're always local.
Aidan Power 5:51
And now he's a master builder that loves any opportunity to crank out the right tool for the job aids radios answer to MacGyver. It's today a man's Dave more Dave, welcome to the podcast.
Dave Moore 6:00
Thanks very much for having me, guys. Good to talk to you.
Aidan Power 6:02
It's a pleasure. We've been oogling ogling over your deck pics on social media recently. You are a fan of posting many.
Dave Moore 6:10
Yeah, just make sure you pronounce that correctly. I didn't get accused. When I came back into work after the weekend of building it that like Hey, stop sending me deck pics. Yeah, it's, you've got to be careful. But yeah, it's you know, it's just it's worked out really well. And it's something that needed upgrading. And with my partnership with Chadwicks I was able to do it and it worked out great.
Fred Cooke 6:35
So was it a lockdown idea. Dave was it something to
Pat Moore 6:40
do you know what it's it's one of those
Dave Moore 6:42
things that's been on our minds for what we started did a lot of upgrades during the lockdown that kind of spurt certainly the first lockdown Fred, were like, We knew we were spending a lot of time at home. And we knew that the time we know what we were aware, we were experiencing unbelievable weather, if you remember the first lockdown was absolutely ridiculous. So what we decided to do was do bits and pieces in the garden, we bought some furniture, we kind of you know, planted some stuff and move things around. And I had done some stuff in the garden before I'd built a playroom, and a shed and all that kind of stuff. So it was like, what do we need to do, and one of the things my wife always wanted was to roof, the decking area. So we live near the sea, we've got lovely west facing garden. And so from that point of view, we're really lucky in the way that it can, it can get us on all day. So she didn't want to, you know, cover the the decking in something that was would make that the area dark. So we've come up with this idea of using clear polycarbonate and we roofs that back in November did that. Just to give you an idea, there are four sheets of polycarbonate on the roof. And each one of them weighs 75 kilos. So it's a sizable piece of work to get them up there and for them to stay there at. And then it was like when we came to do the deck. It was like, Well, why the hell have I just put a 400 kilo deck or afford to get a roof on our deck. And now I have to try and rebuild the deck underneath it. So it presented a fair few challenges posed. But I got done with a bit of budget here and there. And all of a sudden we're finished.
Aidan Power 8:13
show how much of the project that is turned out so beautifully. How much of it was was your your mind? but also your hands at work, Dave? Oh, yeah, I
Dave Moore 8:25
mean, it's, it's a bit of both. And I'll be honest with you. And the way I did it was there's a couple of ways you can build any deck. Like traditionally, you'd know that you build a subframe and you ruined the boards across the subframe your deck is stolen, right? Then you can decide you want to put up handrails or you know, whatever you want steps and whatever the composite decking is I suppose the genius of it is a it's made from recycled materials, you're doing your bit there. And but it also hasn't requires almost no looking after like one of the things about having a softball deck is you're constantly, maybe not every year, but certainly over two years, you're sending us your varnishing at your painting and doing whatever you're there's upkeep involved, and the composite kind of removes that, because the material is just, it's designed to kind of stay true to what it is when you put it down for a long time. But the consideration I had to make in my brain beforehand was do I put a composite top like composite boards down on on either the existing or a new sub frame because obviously with an old deck like we had that one there about 15 years ago, so it's been a long time since I've seen underneath it. But I just decided in the end I'd love to put it down on top of a more permanent base so that the subframe didn't outlive or sorry that the boards didn't outlive the subframe and I ended up having to take them all off rebuilding subframe and 10 years and putting the boards back down. So I went with the plastic pedestals and aluminium joists model which I'll be honest with you required a lot of brain power aid. It is not the The first time you do it, there's a lot to get your head around once it's done. Like I could knock up a composite deck that way now, you know, in half the time it took me to do the first one, if that makes sense.
Aidan Power 10:10
So Dave, how much advice how much helps Did you get from Chadwicks? Because you clearly know you know what you want. And and you know a lot about what you're talking about right now, how much of a helper Chadwicks
Dave Moore 10:21
huge, because I'll be honest with you, and yeah, you're right, in the sense that I'm competent to do I love DIY, I love doing it. And I love you know, building things, and I'm competent and confident in my abilities to do it. But this was a brand new beast. To me, Look, I've put down decks like putting the deck down isn't something I would classes, particularly difficult, but doing it this way with the plastic pedestals the aluminium Joyce was a real challenge. And thankfully, I was able to call Chadwicks not just kind of during the the actual construction phase, but beforehand, get advice on, you know, how do these things work? You know, what are the what are the potential pitfalls or the little bits of knowledge that you really need to know, before you go into this, I was able to do that and talk to Chad was actually the group as well, who supplied the deck and White River group up in county level, and they were great as well. So between the two of them, I kind of felt going in like I knew, even though I'd never done it, I knew what I was facing into. And then it was simply a case of the practicalities of actually doing it. And I did a couple of times have to ring, you know, and ask questions or look for, you know, another piece of equipment or another piece of materials that I just didn't foresee at the beginning, that would make all the difference of a goddess and as always Chadwicks and some are able to come through it all that kind of stuff when I needed it. So and yeah, so it was great to be able to call on them and guess the advisor needed and also the kind of the the practicality of the actual materials and tools as well.
Aidan Power 11:54
Did you get any good jokes for your brilliant radio segment?
Dave Moore 11:59
Do you know what I actually rang at one point on a site on the Saturday when I was waiting on a delivery, and I ran to check something I got pulled through to the lads kind of in the warehousing area, whatever. And, like as far as I was concerned, they were just pulling through a customer they wouldn't know who Dave portmarnock was compared to anyone else. So I was chatting away to Lars and then he went here before he goes like yeah, and he went and he told me this crudest, most onbroad castable joke ever goes
Unknown Speaker 12:29
Unknown Speaker 12:32
for the rest of
Dave Moore 12:33
the project, how hilarious it was, but I can't even say it here on this podcast. So
Aidan Power 12:39
that's a shame. That's our last but customer service. Keep you laugh and keep you laughing. So job complete Mission complete, amazing job. Have you any more projects up your sleeve Dave? Yes, I
Dave Moore 12:52
have a few Actually, I mentioned that I built a kind of an outdoor room a playroom for the kids with a shed attached onto it in my own back garden. And I need another one but I don't have the room my own back garden. So I'm going to build another one in my mother's back garden has very kindly allowed me to take up some of the free space in her back garden. So I'll do that. And I also my wife is an artist and I'm going to be upgrading her studio. And it's it's kind of she she kind of the room was done. And then she decided to be an artist so it wasn't kind of purpose built for. So I'm going to take that room and just do it out laid out in a better way and and just make it a whole lot more beautiful than nice place to be. And then there's a big one Coleman I don't know when I get to do this, but I want to move an internal wall in the house, which is brave. I'm getting very brave, but that will require all new flooring. Our whole downstairs is one one wooden floor flows from like the hall through to the sitting room then out into the kitchen diner and all that kind of stuff. So it's a big job to re floor all that but I do want to do that.
Aidan Power 14:01
Dave that's also impressive. Now you're Jen for joining us, but you are staying with us because our pod quiz is coming up. So Dave for now. Thank you. We'll chat in a few minutes.
Unknown Speaker 14:09
Cheers, Fred Cheers.
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Aidan Power 14:24
Now each and every week on the podcast, we are looking for your jokes you can get in touch and send us a voice note with your favourite one on our WhatsApp number which you'll find in the show description and for our inaugural joke of the week. It's coming to us courtesy of john Flynn. JOHN is a carpenter from Dublin, but let's see if he's wooden or not take it away, john.
Unknown Speaker 14:43
So David is sitting at home. He gets a text message. The text message reads Hi Dave. This is Frank. I've got a confession to make. I've been messing around with your wife for the last two to three weeks. I'm really sorry. I'll be over in an hour. We'll have a chat about it. We'll see what we can do. Well, Dave gets very, very angry. And Dave gets a gong. And Dave walks over and he shoots his voice. I was able to stand up there, the text message comes in again. Hi, Dave. Sorry. autocorrect the manual WiFi.
Aidan Power 15:23
Wow, john. I didn't know where you're going with that. And I didn't expect that ending. Fred. You're the comedian. Once you think Oh, absolutely. You know, I've
Fred Cooke 15:30
been doing comedy. No, 15 years. I didn't see that one coming. Did you know No, no, no, it's like affairs and WiFi. I never would have put the two of them together like so. I'd say great delivery. And nice and quick as well. He got in there nice and quick. It didn't hang around too long to get to the punch line. And he wasn't afraid it's quite dark, and surprisingly dark but still worked. So I'd say I'd give it a six and a half out of 10. Okay, so
Aidan Power 16:00
each week Fred is going to raise our joke of the week whoever is top of the leaderboard will win their tool of dreams. We need we need a jingle for that. Fred. We need two and a half dreams. That is when you go into the Chadwick store. That thing you have wanted all your life, the tool of dreams will be yours. If you are top of Fred Cook's leaderboard what your joke of the week show john Flynn, congratulations being our first entrant you are currently top of the leaderboard with a score
Fred Cooke 16:30
of six and a half,
Aidan Power 16:32
six and a half. Not a bad start. If you would like your joke to be featured on the podcast. Remember, you can send it to us by voice note on WhatsApp. And you will get the number in the show description. And you could be on the next episode of under construction, which fabrics
trade talk tips and banter. This is the under construction podcast from Chadwicks pledge Kevin.
Aidan Power 16:53
Now joining us is Pat Moore. Pat is Chadwicks group category director with full purchasing responsibility. So Pat, first things first, the burning question is are you any relation to today of EMS? Dave? More?
Pat Moore 17:03
No, no, no relation. He'd be the he'll be glad to hear I'd say more so than me. And I just dropped into one of his Instagram Live shows last week by pure accident. So I'd say that's where this came. This came from but no, no relation.
Aidan Power 17:15
No relation. All right. Well, Pat, as I said, Your Chadwick, school category director, that gives you full purchasing responsibility. So does that mean everything we see on the on the shelves in the aisles in Chadwicks, you are responsible for being there?
Pat Moore 17:28
I'd love to say it is my responsibility Aiden but does not. I'm surrounded by a super a team of colleagues, both here in the support office and in the branches who are responsible of making sure the product is on the shelf for our customers. I just pull a few strings and someone said look pretty, I don't know about that. But that's what I try my best. Well, you're modest man, Pat. Now look, it's
Aidan Power 17:47
been a very challenging time for everyone in so many different ways. But in the construction industry, as things are cranking up post lockdown at one of the challenges you're facing, as far as
Pat Moore 17:56
it's very highlighted in the news at the moment construction sector is is seeing serious issues around material shortages, including timber, steel, insulation and roofing products. So on the back of that, and there's also a number of price increases coming true, which is makes it out to be the perfect storm. Really.
Aidan Power 18:14
What is the main reason for the supply shortages? Well, look,
Pat Moore 18:17
if we look at the different sectors from a timber perspective, we had issues earlier on last year in relation to licencing. And that has caused a problem boiler has been rectified, it still has left a backlog, and that backlog is yet to be cleared up. So that's caused a major problem on the native end, from an import from an important joe biden's injection of money into the US economy has caused serious problems for Europe. And all timber basically is moving from Europe into the US. And due to the cost of the raw material that they're prepared to pay. Also, then on from from Mr. perspective, the Chinese are eating up a lot of material that's gone in there. I think it's the highest imports in China for many, many years. That causes a problem for Europe and Ireland. And then you've got issues around plastic. So you guys have noticed No, it's plastic piping, the raw material for that has come under pressure because of it, believe it or not a storm in Texas. And again, the Americans are now looking to fill that gap. And they're important a lot of material from the from Europe to cover that gap.
Aidan Power 19:15
And as well as that pad, of course, we faced a pandemic. We've also had Brexit we had the Suez Canal blockage has that also played its part as well in the shortages. Yeah, each of those
Pat Moore 19:25
categories, I imagine have caused the problem more so the Chinese situation has come from shortages of containers due to the pandemic and shipped not travelling and people not moving. And so what that has meant is safe this time last year we would have been paying in the region of two and a half $1,000 for a container you're now paying $15,000 today, and that has put a lot of pressure on product coming out of China into into Ireland and the rest of Europe.
Aidan Power 19:47
Wow, that is a huge increase. So as a result of shortage prices are going up. And that's having a knock on effect on the customer, isn't it
Pat Moore 19:55
it is unlocked and it's To be fair, and it's not just a chat exposition. It's a lot of people In the sector hand dimensioning sector are doing their best to try and offset as many price increases as possible. But this is a global situation, it's not just an Irish situation or even a UK situation, the Americans are taking us into a lot of product that's already Chinese and that has really caused a lot of problems and it's putting a lot of pressure on pricing. So it's a lock it's a constant challenge for us and it's a constant challenge for our customers. But we are doing our best to try and offset as much as we can but we are in unprecedented times.
Aidan Power 20:25
Indeed now Pat, the outdoor living brochure is out and there's a lot of good stuff in it and there's plenty available isn't there
Pat Moore 20:31
is yeah locked out or leaving it to a new brochure for us and it's going very, very well. There's obviously just we feature the new decking with composite decking and Dan soft wood decking so it's, you know, it's there, we've got a fair bit of stock in the branches. So we'll get in and see the guys there they look after. We've also got a super range from concern on the paving side and walling side so locked has a lot to offer in there. Pat, thanks
Aidan Power 20:52
so much for joining us on the podcast all about No problem,
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Aidan Power 21:04
Now it's time for the pod quiz. This week's guest Dave more from today FM is going to play on behalf of the listener for a prize that is well fairly unique to say the least are Fred cook will not only compose but sing a song all about the listener in question. And they can use this for a variety of reasons including their voicemail show Dave more you're playing this week on behalf of Aiden Ryan, who's a plumber from Wicklow. Here's the rules. You've got one minute to get five questions right. And you'll be maybe delighted to know or scared that older questions have been set by your other radio half Mr. Dermott cleeland Oh God, the saving grace is your questions have a theme. And they are all on heavy metal.
Pat Moore 21:45
He knows nothing about that. What is he asking me?
Aidan Power 21:50
It's time to find out Fred. You're going to keep score. We're going to stick 60 seconds on the clock. Dave, are you ready? Yes, sir. Question one, when was heavy metal music first developed was a the late 60s and early 70s or be the late 70s and early 80s.
Dave Moore 22:07
Early 60s A our late 60s I mean a
Aidan Power 22:10
correct name the original lead singer from Iron Maiden.
Unknown Speaker 22:13
Dave Moore 22:14
the original lead singer. Pastor No, not Bruce Dickinson Paul diano. Paul Of course, question three
Aidan Power 22:21
rocky like a hurricane from the scorpions his song all about a wild night of lovemaking. But did the same song feature in the Justin Timberlake animated offering trolls World Tour did it Yes. Are you jumping in question for which famous front man took over singing jerseys for a short period of time in AC DC back in 2016?
Dave Moore 22:44
I don't know. I know nothing about AC DC.
Fred Cooke 22:48
Who would fill in who'd been who'd be who would have been best the best folk to singer to fill in at the time because he wasn't in his own band. JACK black. No, no,
Aidan Power 22:55
we're we're at a time and we can reveal the answer to that one and you may kick yourself it's Axl Rose. Ah, I had no idea.
Dave Moore 23:03
What do I know about
Fred Cooke 23:04
rock and roll? Well, David you've got two rights which get which is quite right.
Dave Moore 23:09
I apologise to Aiden the plumber vote I like I expected these to be questions about heavy metal and it was all about rock and roll as I'm where's my Slayer? Where's my deck? Where's my slipping off?
Aidan Power 23:19
Okay, how about we put it all on one question.
Unknown Speaker 23:23
Oh my gosh, you
Aidan Power 23:24
get this question? Right everything rides on this for Aiden the former
Dave Moore 23:26
Okay, okay, I'm gonna do it for you.
Aidan Power 23:29
Dave more after 37 years of recording and performing which American thrash metal band embarked on their farewell tour in 2018.
Dave Moore 23:40
Unknown Speaker 23:41
Pat Moore 23:47
I was there.
Aidan Power 23:48
I went to all the shows. I was there man when he saved it all on that question. And that means that Mr. Aiden Ryan our plumber gets a special song performed by Fred
Fred Cooke 24:02
you reach the vice Miller right for please. message and I get back given time on the busiest clover day and night. Somewhere in Wakefield is a broken pipes have come on, leave a message.
Aidan Power 24:21
For thank you so much for joining us on the
Dave Moore 24:22
podcast. lads. Thank you so much. What a pleasure. It's been lowered
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Aidan Power 24:39
Well thank you to Dave more from today FM to pat Moore from Chadwick's. No relation to Dave and to you for listening. We'll be back with another podcast next Monday. And to get it automatically just search under construction with Chadwicks wherever you get your podcast Fred, it's been fun for the first one that what are your final thoughts?
Fred Cooke 24:56
My final thought is eight and composite decking is the way to go. I learned that from a DJ
Aidan Power 25:04
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